Hello,
Thanks for your query at DoctorSpring.com
From your message, it is not clear why you are taking DHT.
Yes, it does not affect your T level, and hence you need not test for it.
Whether you need it or not, I will be able to tell you only if you tell me why you are taking it.
Feel free to discuss further
Regards
Patient replied :
yes but will dht gel shutdown my own production of DHT when i stop,
i understand it will not affect T but what about DHT after i stop
i expected a more in depth answer to be fair.
will andactrim gel raise my DHT levels
im taking DHT GEL for penis enlargment. several studies show that DHT gel can stimulate the DHT receptors in the penis fro growth along with HGH , other growth factors and PGE 1, 2 AND 3, actylcholine and Nitric oxide . i am taking all of these supplements which increase these levels in the body, then penile balooning where u maintain an erection for an hour or so through sex and or masturbation allows the nutrient rich blood to hit and stimulate the receptors within the penis allowing growth
several studies show that just dht alone caused penis growth in transgender men growing there penis
here is the study
To investigate the efficacy of transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy on 22 patients with microphallus, we applied dihydrotestosterone gel for 8 weeks to the external genitalia at daily doses of 12.5 mg. and 25 mg. for ages less than and older than 10 years, respectively.
All patients demonstrated growth of the penis during treatment. The mean increase rate (153%) in the first 4 weeks of treatment was higher than that (118%) of the second 4 weeks. Of importance is that responses were noted in 4 patients who had failed testosterone therapy for microphallus.
In conclusion, transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy is an effective and relatively safe modality in the treatment of microphallus. (Source)
The key to DHT lengthening the penis lies in the number of active androgen receptors in the penis. By the time most men reach adulthood, the number of active androgen receptors has decreased dramatically, but they usually don’t disappear completely. Those that remain are sensitive to testosterone stimulation and may respond to PE programs that include DHT gel and penile ballooning. (According to research, penile growth cessation is controlled by mechanisms other than down regulation of androgen receptors.) With ballooning, penile tissues are literally soaked in DHT-enriched blood. Maintained for 30-60 minutes, this can stimulate the growth of new DHT receptors in the penis’ spongy tisssues. Increasing the DHT receptors in your penis will enable you to lengthen your penis with topical DHT cream.
anyway im 7.5 inches now and want to hit 8 inches so i can be happy and stop obsessing about penis size, i may even obtain a 10 percent gel from my doctor if needs be, please advise but dont waste your time putting me off or saying it wont work etc because it clearly does if you do the research by initiating the same hormonal response that occured during puberty one can grow the penis at any age
im also supplemening on naturual iodine and also acetyl l carnitine, these have proven in clinical trials that after 21 days they resensitize dht and androgen receptors so at the moment im priming my receptors for growth while the gel arrives, i also take l tyrosine another amino acid which is creates dopamine in the body which is then in turn used to make DHT , so im using a double attack method, supplements for bio chemicals in the body and penile balloning for internal growth, very limited ejaculations to build up levels wthin the body, followed by the andactrim gel applied to the penis and scrotum directly,
within 6 weeks i should have my growth, if not i will use for 6-12 months to get my growth
no exercises are used as mechanical exercises like jelqiing and pumping damage the penis and cause scar tissue and collagen build up,
im basically just going to go through through puberty once more for a small set period of time
thank you for confirming not to worry about the shut down of T with the gel but what about DHT shutdown after i stop the gel, can this happen, is PCT needed
any final thoughts on my plan and also any added reccomendations to enhance my plan
please leave me a propper answer, i didnt pay 22 pounds for 6 sentences, no offence
i wait for your response doctor
thak you
Hello,
Thank you for your follow-up.
No, DHT supplementation or Andractim gel will not reduce your intrinsic DHT levels, after you stop using it. The penile response to DHT varies from person to person, and you will only know on using it. However, response is poorer in people who have normal DHT levels.
Your penile length is already normal, in fact better than most other males and sexual satisfaction is not related to length anyway.
Regarding penile ballooning, it is not a commonly practiced procedure, however if the study claims it works, there must be some truth behind it. I am not trying to discourage you in any way, but most penile lengthening methods have failed in the market already after a lot of claims.
I just want to reassure you your size is good and you can enjoy a great sex life with it.
Feel free to ask further queries,
Regards.
Patient replied :
thank you for a great answer
i have another question
just so i dont waste my time
i am confused after intensive research
i want to know about the DHT receptors in the penis.
1.at 27 do i stii have these receptors
2. iwant to know how and when the down regulation of these receptors occur, and can they be stimulated again, isit possible to recreate new receptors
3. will DHT stimulate the receptors for growth?
final question so please answer this too, are you sure DHT GEL WONT AFFECT MY TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION AFTER I STOP
4.i want to know about the suppression of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis
DOES DHT AFFECT THIS
I DONT WANT TO BE LEFT WITH NO FUNCTIONING BALLS
AND HIGH ESTROGEN AND LOW T
PLEASE BE HONEST
TELL ME THE TRUTH
HOW DO I AVOID THIS
OR DO I HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT
BECAUSE YOU SAID DHT DOES NOT AFFFECT T PRODUCTION
WHAT IF I CYCLE ONE MONTH ON ONE MONTH OFF
PLEASE ADVISE IN DETAIL DOCTOR
GIVE ME A LONG DETAILED RESPONSE TO ALL THESE QUESTIONS SO I DONT NEED TO ASK YOU ANYMORE
CAN YOU DIRECT ME TO A PEER REVIEWED ARTICLE OR CREDIBLE EVIDENCE TO PUT MY MIND AT REST THAT DHT WOULD NOT AFFECT MY T PRODUCTION
THE INTERNET IS LITTERED WITH PEOPLES OPINIONS, I NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTHHHH!
5 questions, 5 perfect answers doc and im all done i promise, dont leave me needing more answers, put my mind at ease. tell me the truth and show me the evidence so i can relax
if you think theres a danger of a shutdown of T production then ALSO TELL ME
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP YOU HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL
I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE EAGERLY
Hello,
With all my professional experience, I can assure that such suppression ( even if it does happen ) is temporary.
So please do not worry about it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3192006/
Refer this site, it explains how DHT at high level does suppress testosterone but once it is stopped the effects are reversed. Also, it reduces the bone mineral density.
I will be honest with you. The size you got is extremely good, in fact most men will love to have your size, but they have relatively smaller penises.
So please do not worry and I suggest do not go fir such products.
Regards.
Patient replied :
once again thank you for the great response
i have read the article on the clinical trial
2 questions
firstly the trial was for a period of 2 years, i will be cycling five days on and 2 days off for a month followed by a month after a months treatment, at which point i will start again, i will do this three times, so a total of 6 months with 3 months on and three months off so i assume the negative impacts will not neccesarily apply to me ?????
but the part that didnt make sense, you said it wont affect my Testosterone levels after i finish cycling
but the article states
The extremely high serum levels of DHT achieved in this study lead to significant gonadotropin suppression, thereby reducing circulating testosterone levels to nearly castrate levels and reducing circulating estradiol levels by 90%.
thats terrifying, castrate levels!!!! i thought you said that T production would naturually resume after treatment. PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS PART!!! I NEED TO BE CLEAR ON THIS
and finally i notice the LDL cholestrol increases, ive had a private heart test done recently whereby my heart is in perfect shape, should i worry about the increase in LDL over the three months of use
please answer these questions doctor, after that im finished and thank you for the consultation and all your help
shahin shekerzade
Hello,
I understand your concerns and apprehensions.
The good thing is you still have not started. This article does state it can almost bring it down to the levels of castration, but that is only on prolonged use.
I recommend you do not opt for such DHT gel and other products.
This will erase all worries and concerns.
You already have a great size and you will have a great sex life. There are studies which will show DHT gel has extraordinary results, but you can't really believe them because different companies will manipulate the results.
Kindly avoid and stop worrying about your size.
Regards.